It’s just so maddening to have this nice, enormous, beautiful stainless range and, as you said, “be at the mercy of 1% of the components”. Licensed Thermador tech advised that the fan unit is no longer available/discontinued (I think it’s part# 00486894). If I re-start it a few times, it eventually works fine and will run all day without a problem, but I would like it to work right. The odd part is that the fans are clearly running (they are kind of loud) and the oven lights without a problem (gas), so I assume the sail switch is not functioning which is probably telling its tiny brain to shut the ovens off. Both ovens are returning a 4,3 error, which I believe is a cooling fan issue. I have a Thermador PGR486GLLP/01 circa 2003. I found myself nodding in agreement as I read the post and resulting comments. We had a Dacor range in San Francisco and didn’t have problems with it, but the heat output and sturdiness was not what I would consider professional grade. I would like to have a fully functional stove that can be used for many more years and there is no logical reason that should not be possible. Or just continue without the broiler… I do have a grill up top and a broiler in the smaller oven. I’ll pay a much lower price or bite the bullet and have mine rebuilt. It is obviously a part that can fail and I don’t know how much life is left in it. I’ve already decided I’m not going to pay $600 for my thermostat if I find one used. Seems like the appliance manufacturers could earn some goodwill, and a little money too, by licensing somebody to continue to manufacture these orphaned parts (or just letting the electronics provider, which is probably a third party, sell them independently). And scavengers are making big bucks by salvaging parts from junked stoves, testing them to see if they work, then selling for hundreds of dollars on eBay. My tech is advising that these stoves have a life expectancy of 15 years and we are pushing twice that, so should be looking to replace it.Įggs-actly. A used thermos for this model on eBay can be as much as $600 (if you can find it, which I haven’t so far). I found a replacement broiler element for $100 and he installed that, but we still can’t use the broiler because now it turns out the thermostat is bad. Our excellent tech from Best Appliance came out and said the broiler element was bad. I found a replacement switch on eBay and installed it myself, but the switch itself was $270 and it didn’t fix the problem. The sellers of our house thought the problem was the latch on the door, the thing that locks it shut when self-cleaning begins. (And there are always matches to fall back on.) But our broiler in the big oven doesn’t work, which means the self-cleaning function doesn’t work. Our range has piezo electric clickers like most home ranges but they seem pretty reliable. With an old-school restaurant stove, you light the pilot each day with a scrap of paper consumers wouldn’t stand for that plus it would probably be illegal for home use (as are a number of other features on a commercial stove, which is why you can’t just buy a used stove from a restaurant supply and bring it home). What we don’t love about this range is the electronics. These two surfaces also come in handy when we’re cooking on the burners because we can offload a pot (without spilling, please) to a heat-safe holding area. But the thick steel on the griddle and the well-designed fake charcoal surface under the heavy grill make this less of a problem than it might be. The heat source is obviously two converted round gas elements so there are hot spots in the middle and they cool off toward the edges. We use the grill and griddle quite a lot and have learned to adjust for their eccentricities. You can ruin a saucepan really quickly if you don’t pay attention. And they’re super hot, each putting out 15,000 BTUs. The tiny holes in the burners can get clogged and you clean them out with a paper clip-like tool, but the burners themselves seem indestructible. The immediate thing you notice that’s different about the Thermador vs these competitors is that its burners and stovetop grates are made of really heavy cast iron, like commercial stoves. We’ve had two “semi-pro” ranges in our last two houses, a Dacor and an NGX. Burner grate, grill and griddle are built to last
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